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but it was spoken by paul ryan. making the case that that's how they can solve problems. >> arguing that it could be bipartisan but paul ryan was actually going back to the republicans' 2010 playbook. where it was all about lower spending and tax cuts. joe biden was sticking to the -- the attack line of the obama campaign which is that mitt romney's tax cuts don't work. he must be hiding some details. he's trying to pull the wool over your isles. gwen: all this came back to one basic thing which you can't trust the other guy. the first part of the debate was devoted, alexis, to a story you were covering this week on capitol hill as well as last night's debate which was what happened at the consulate in benghazi. and the administration has had some shifting explanations. >> a month away from the attacks on the anniversary of 9-11. and we still were hearing this week more questions than direct answers. and it has taken a long time for the administration to come around to suggesting two things. one was that their intel
but it was spoken by paul ryan. making the case that that's how they can solve problems. >> arguing that it could be bipartisan but paul ryan was actually going back to the republicans' 2010 playbook. where it was all about lower spending and tax cuts. joe biden was sticking to the -- the attack line of the obama campaign which is that mitt romney's tax cuts don't work. he must be hiding some details. he's trying to pull the wool over your isles. gwen: all this came back to one basic...
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paul ryan knows how to debate. the question is whether he's going to be able, in a debate, to defend his stances and those of mitt romney. >> especially that ryan budget, up against joe biden. john nichols, great to have you with us tonight. thanks a lot. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> i'll tell you, you've got a great boss. he runs a great operation here. >> the federal election commission is now involved over mitt romney's use of coal miners as props. robert reich on the plutocrat's revolt is next. >>> the mother of a navy s.e.a.l. killed in benghazi asks mitt romney to stop using her son as a political prop. that story, ahead. >>> and congressman joe walsh has reached yet another new low. >> tammy duckworth, who's on a stage down in charlotte, if you can look at the picture, picking out a dress for her speech tuesday night. >> tonight, karen finney on why the tea party crazies could be facing extinction. begin. tomato, obviously. haha. there's more than that
paul ryan knows how to debate. the question is whether he's going to be able, in a debate, to defend his stances and those of mitt romney. >> especially that ryan budget, up against joe biden. john nichols, great to have you with us tonight. thanks a lot. there's a lot more coming up in the next half hour of "the ed show." stay with us. >> i'll tell you, you've got a great boss. he runs a great operation here. >> the federal election commission is now involved over...
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paul ryan's family, paul ryan's business, paul ryan's whole life in janisville, wisconsin, when he was busy sitting there reading ayn rand and dreaming of a libertarian independent future, that whole life was made possible by the help of government. by social security supplemental income when his father died at a young age. by roads, by railroads, by government programs. this is a cooperative effort. and this is what mitt romney and paul ryan are rejecting and what joe biden and barack obama need too defend. it couldn't be more fundamental or more urgent, because without the counterargument, mitt romney is rocketing to the lead in the popular vote and he's catching up in the electoral college very quickly. it couldn't be more important tomorrow night. everybody says vice presidential debates don't matter. this one really does. >> i think it does. i think it really does. it's -- and i also think it sets the table for ryan to prove that hays the true conservative, that the conservatives want him to be. and the question is, is he going to leave that stage being the same guy or is he going
paul ryan's family, paul ryan's business, paul ryan's whole life in janisville, wisconsin, when he was busy sitting there reading ayn rand and dreaming of a libertarian independent future, that whole life was made possible by the help of government. by social security supplemental income when his father died at a young age. by roads, by railroads, by government programs. this is a cooperative effort. and this is what mitt romney and paul ryan are rejecting and what joe biden and barack obama...
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>> i think we want vice president biden to hang paul ryan budget around his and governor romney's neck. that budget is terrible for the working middle class in this country. it voucherizes medicare, it slass medicaid, it cuts pell grants, it gives tax cuts to really really rich people. mitt romney called it a marvelus budget. i want the vice president to take that budget and literally drape it around paul ryan's neck. >> richard wolfe, there has been information in the polls this week that romney's campaign was going the other way. but when you look at the way it's lining up, it looks like very little movement. >> if history is any press tant, he's got fall bounce, now the debate is turning not towards the performance of the theatrics, but to the actual policies. what these presidents would look like. when you look at ohio, you're not just talking about any battle ground state. you're talking about a strongly manufacturing based economy that has done well. where the unemployment rate is below the national average, and the economic trend through this whole country is per septemberbly mo
>> i think we want vice president biden to hang paul ryan budget around his and governor romney's neck. that budget is terrible for the working middle class in this country. it voucherizes medicare, it slass medicaid, it cuts pell grants, it gives tax cuts to really really rich people. mitt romney called it a marvelus budget. i want the vice president to take that budget and literally drape it around paul ryan's neck. >> richard wolfe, there has been information in the polls this...
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olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change those attitudes is dialogue. and the way to change those attitudes is to talk to people about the fundamental right and the way to deal with republicans in my opinion is to say we are the party of abraham lincoln. let's not forget that. what are these -- we say that. let's live up to that. let's think about our principles here. what is decency and privacy and respect? can't talk about what happens in debate preparation but when those issues, if they're issues, they come up in the preparation because they might come up in the debate, and you talk about those things and i can argue as persuasively as i'm
olson has been playing the part of joe biden in paul ryan's debate prep, which will help paul ryan get better at debating which will help him become vice president which would be bad for gay rights. right? >> or in my attempt to persuade ryan on this issue. don't understate the possibility that dialogue and talking about these issues makes a difference. not just independents and not just democrats but republicans, too. the tides are changing. attitudes are changing. and the way to change...
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i think that paul ryan will do well also. but i think that the issue here is you have to remember whether for mitt romney's own gaffes or whether the media built up president obama's some figure who is going to do extremely well in this campaign and wipe the floor with mitt romney, it already set the bar so high for president obama he fell very flat. didn't come close to the bar. we have an issue paul ryan is thought to be this wonky nerd and when he comes out, if he can perform even half as well as mitt romney, they are overestimated or underestimating congressman ryan, i would say if they think he will come out and just throw out a bunch of numbers and stats and not put any hard or skin in the game so to speak. he has won a congressional district because he can relate to people. i think we are going to see some of that behavior if that debate tomorrow night. >> there were critics from the female side of the aisle that there was no conversation, no debate, between mitt romney and president obama about a woman's right to choo
i think that paul ryan will do well also. but i think that the issue here is you have to remember whether for mitt romney's own gaffes or whether the media built up president obama's some figure who is going to do extremely well in this campaign and wipe the floor with mitt romney, it already set the bar so high for president obama he fell very flat. didn't come close to the bar. we have an issue paul ryan is thought to be this wonky nerd and when he comes out, if he can perform even half as...
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decide, do they want more of what they've seen for the past four years, or do they want pa romney and ryan ticket who will bring in pro-growth policies that will bring in jobs for our country? >> thank you so much for being with us. >> my pleasure. >>> the picture at the gas pump keeps gets worse for drivers in california. >>> but first, after mitt romney's attack on big bird this week, the mega-sized muppet has been popping up in some surprising places this weekend. we'll show you, next. you're watching msnbc. with the spark cash card from capital one, sven's home security gets the most rewards of any small business credit card! how does this thing work? oh, i like it! [ garth ] sven's small business earns 2% cash back on every purchase, every day! woo-hoo!!! so that's ten security gators, right? put them on my spark card! why settle for less? testing hot tar... great businesses deserve the most rewards! [ male announcer ] the spark business card from capital one. choose unlimited rewards with 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day! what's in your wallet? here's your in
decide, do they want more of what they've seen for the past four years, or do they want pa romney and ryan ticket who will bring in pro-growth policies that will bring in jobs for our country? >> thank you so much for being with us. >> my pleasure. >>> the picture at the gas pump keeps gets worse for drivers in california. >>> but first, after mitt romney's attack on big bird this week, the mega-sized muppet has been popping up in some surprising places this...
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ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with us. >> we all like pbs. i mean, i have grand kids, they love big bird and burt ander ni and so forth, but we borrow money effectively from china to make sure our kids don't have to watch advertising on pbs. my view is it makes sense to stop borrowing many and let our kids get used to corn flakes. >> sesame street was brought today by the letter "g" for grouch. the capital one cash rewards card gives you a 50% annual bonus. and everyone likes 50% more [ russian accent ] rubles. eh, eheh, eh, eh. [ brooklyn accent ] 50% more simoleons. [ western accent ] 50% more
ryan has got to respond. ryan is a detail person. i think if biden charges very specifically and effectively what the lies are, that both romney and ryan have been telling, based upon ryan's previous record it's going to be very difficult for ryan. that's exactly what joe biden ought to be doing. >> indeed he should. steve kornacki, professor robert reich, thank you both, gentlemen. >>> next, grab a pen. we have the latest lessons in science and history from the gop. stay with...
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van hollen has worked with paul ryan, he's a democrat from maryland, who worked with ryan with and against on the house budget committee. so van hollen is someone who's very familiar, not only with his policies. so the two of them will be participating in mock debates. they've done two to date, and i'm sure they'll be doing a lot more up until wednesday, before they head to danville, kentucky, for the big night. >> what is the biggest concern for mr. biden and his team? >> well, when they really would like to do is to change the conversation from last week's performance by barack obama, get to change that conversation on thursday, and to really talk specifically about the ryan budget. joe biden told reporters last week that what he's doing is looking at ryan's policies and seeing how he can apply them to the ryan/romney ticket as a whole. what they really would like to do is talk a lot about those ryan fiscal policies. things like kucutting spending, reforming medicare, looking at social security. what biden would like to do is talk a lot about those issues. one issue for the vice presiden
van hollen has worked with paul ryan, he's a democrat from maryland, who worked with ryan with and against on the house budget committee. so van hollen is someone who's very familiar, not only with his policies. so the two of them will be participating in mock debates. they've done two to date, and i'm sure they'll be doing a lot more up until wednesday, before they head to danville, kentucky, for the big night. >> what is the biggest concern for mr. biden and his team? >> well,...
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ryan math use got out of a based loaded jam in the seventh. in the eighth, tyler moore drove in two runs with a single to right. that would prove to be the game winner. the nats beat the cardinals in game one of the division series. game two is today at 4:37 p.m. >> thank goodness. game one of the divisional series between the orioles and yankees under a rain delay for some time. the orioles fall 7-2. game two is tonight. first pitch is 8:07. pitch is >>> a tough loss in more ways than one for the washington redskins. they got beat by the falcons 24- 17 and, of course, star quarterback robert griffin iii left the game with an injury. it happened in the middle of the third quarter with the game tied at seven. griffin rolled to his
ryan math use got out of a based loaded jam in the seventh. in the eighth, tyler moore drove in two runs with a single to right. that would prove to be the game winner. the nats beat the cardinals in game one of the division series. game two is today at 4:37 p.m. >> thank goodness. game one of the divisional series between the orioles and yankees under a rain delay for some time. the orioles fall 7-2. game two is tonight. first pitch is 8:07. pitch is >>> a tough loss in more...
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, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to figure out how he can talk about what he believes and not run afoul of wherever governor romney might be on any of these budgetary issues, and especially medicare. >> it could be very interesting and very important given where we are at this stage, 29 days out. jonathan and margie omera, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> a new group intimidating voters at the poll. into plus, the folks at snl brought humor but there's a serious point to be made. that's ahead. [ female announcer ] you can measure the growth of children by the
, it's congressman ryan who has specifics. he has an actual budget that vice president biden and reporters, quite frankly, can point to to say, in your budget, house budget committee chairman, you propose this, you propose that. where are you now? and the bind that congressman ryan is in, he's not the top of the ticket. governor romney is and governor romney said famously after they were chosen, paul ryan has his plan but i'm the candidate. i have my own plan. paul ryan is going to have to...
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or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that is, you know, part of what the american people need to decide on, whether or not they want a budget that protects tax cuts for those at the top but is cutting education, and veterans and clean energy, innovation, infrastructure, turning medicare into a voucher program. those are the types of choices that the meamerican people have before them and that will be part of the discussion tonight. >> you said earlier today, stephanie, that paul ryan and mitt romney are politicizing the attack in benghazi that killed our ambassador there. the republican national committee re
or are you running and paul ryan as part of the romney/ryan ticket? how much should we expect to hear tonight about the way paul ryan comported himself in the house of representatives? >> well, you know, rachel, mitt romney and paul ryan campaigned all throughout the state of wisconsin during the republican primaries, where mitt romney completely wrapped his arms around paul ryan's policies. paul ryan's budget. i think that is going to be a piece of the discussion tonight and i think that...
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. >> paul ryan has had eight previous debates. higher stakes, a lot of pressure. the vice president has to be feeling it a little bit, too. the president called him to wish him good luck. both sides recognize how does not take much to shift momentum. the vice president was cheered on as he arrived in kentucky. for anyone who thinks he has a take a few punches strategy, think again. >> paul ryan says he too has plenty of ammunition. >> what he cannot run from is president obama's record. >> joe biden has passion. paul ryan relies on power points. he'd better have specifics or he will likely be called out. joe biden will rely on foreign policy experience. he has been known to be gaffe prone. >> he made that all remark about the chains. >> what you see is what you get with the vice president. we think that is a real asset. and you trust them. you know that he is being honest. is there an advantage? republicans say of course. >> joe biden has been doing this since the 1800's. >> tonight, joe biden will make mincemeat of paul ryan. >> keep in mind, either way this is t
. >> paul ryan has had eight previous debates. higher stakes, a lot of pressure. the vice president has to be feeling it a little bit, too. the president called him to wish him good luck. both sides recognize how does not take much to shift momentum. the vice president was cheered on as he arrived in kentucky. for anyone who thinks he has a take a few punches strategy, think again. >> paul ryan says he too has plenty of ammunition. >> what he cannot run from is president...
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which is the vp candidate, paul ryan, he could do a ladies night. [laughter] >> yeah, they could try that. we have secrets. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> i'm not one to speak for women. a lot of women that i speak you know, they have told me that this whole notion of a war against women, it was such an insult to their intelligence. mitt romney is looking to just destroy anything that women have made. neil: onto your thoughts on this. >> for his upcoming you came back across this subject. think about some of the war against women. this guy wants to take away everything that women have achieved over the last 30 or 40 years. on the other hand, you have a president that was one of the most striking debates i saw, was to not have his hands around basic facts and figures about the economy. people are saying in the business community is that a guy that's unconnected -- this detached could ruin another four years for the country. neil: you reminded me that things could change in politics. a week ago at this time, mitt romney couldn'
which is the vp candidate, paul ryan, he could do a ladies night. [laughter] >> yeah, they could try that. we have secrets. [talking over each other] [talking over each other] >> i'm not one to speak for women. a lot of women that i speak you know, they have told me that this whole notion of a war against women, it was such an insult to their intelligence. mitt romney is looking to just destroy anything that women have made. neil: onto your thoughts on this. >> for his...
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was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme court, i'm sure they were said last night. it was made clear last night that they don't believe in protecting a woman's access to health care. it was made very clear that they do not believe a woman has a right to control her own body. these guys have a social policy out of the '50s. >> that was joe biden's first major campaign appearance today after last night's big event with paul ryan. now, paul ryan's first public appearance after last night's debate was not that moment on the tarmac with mitt romney with the funny microphone, it was actuall
was capturing what mitt ryan -- mitt ryan? what mitt romney and paul ryan were saying. the point mitt romney interrupted paul ryan is when he was saying, he was just acting so -- romney jumped in, careful, careful. ixnay on the talking. vice president joe biden took the final topic of last night's debate, issue of abortion rights and hit paul ryan with it pretty forcefully. >> if anyone had a doubt about what's at state in this election, when it comes to women's rights, and the supreme...
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last night, we had a terrific performance by paul ryan. [cheers] folks, on the stage last night, who was the leader? it was paul ryan. [cheers] jobe biden said a lot of interesting things. one was, in a time of increasing danger around the world, he said we ought to be cutting our military. [boos] he said we don't need any more m1 tanks. did you hear that? guess where they were made, folks? right here in the state of ohio. they are part of the great is military on the face of the earth. they will insure we have a military second to none so we can keep the peace. we need m1 tanks. say it ain't so, joe. now, we also saw on the stage last night a guy who understands how to get america back on track. just as mitt romney did last week, he explained why it was so important for us to have a change in direction and he laid out a specific agenda to move america forward. the comeback team is here and we need them and we need them now. please help me welcome the next vice president of the united states, paul ryan. [cheers and applause] >> wow. thank
last night, we had a terrific performance by paul ryan. [cheers] folks, on the stage last night, who was the leader? it was paul ryan. [cheers] jobe biden said a lot of interesting things. one was, in a time of increasing danger around the world, he said we ought to be cutting our military. [boos] he said we don't need any more m1 tanks. did you hear that? guess where they were made, folks? right here in the state of ohio. they are part of the great is military on the face of the earth. they...
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obama will have dinner with the -- >> anybody who watched the , i don't think there is that congressman ryan and i and gov. ronnie and the ent have a fundamentally different vision for mecca and quite frankly a -- for america a differentankly value said. >> he was joined by his wife. >> during last night's debate, hundreds of our viewers checked our instant reaction poll. now you can do so. check it out for itself in the presidential debate on tuesday. wjla.com/react. >> and an agent was found lying a miami-florida intersection. he had trouble standing and alcohol andngly of was slurring his words. police arrested him after he acame aggressive during patdown and he struck a police n the chain. charged and then released. the pentagon issued a warning attacks.r have to address a new domain, that we must secure to have peace and prosperity in the world of tomorrow. >> leon panetta says the united states is facing a possible cyber pearl harbor. he is pushing legislation that require new cyber security or the private sector. opponents say it would be a burden on business. many in the area will ha
obama will have dinner with the -- >> anybody who watched the , i don't think there is that congressman ryan and i and gov. ronnie and the ent have a fundamentally different vision for mecca and quite frankly a -- for america a differentankly value said. >> he was joined by his wife. >> during last night's debate, hundreds of our viewers checked our instant reaction poll. now you can do so. check it out for itself in the presidential debate on tuesday. wjla.com/react. >>...
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that's what paul ryan said? so in other words if somebody comes into his office and says, hey, i need $20 million for this project, it's just a quick stamp of approval? ryan's part of the problem in washington, and he's trying to blame the democrats for it. at certain points the vice president was openly fact checking paul ryan's comments in realtime. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one democrat who endorses it. not one democrat who signed the plan. >> our partner is a democrat from oregon. >> he says he does no longer support -- >> we put it together with the former clinton budget director. >> who disavows it. >> this idea came from the clinton commission to save medicare chaired by senator john breaux. here's the point, martha. >> which was rejected. >> if we don't -- >> that was a crucial point in the debate right there. here's a guy trying to talk about a plan that has bipartisan support, and joe biden stood up for
that's what paul ryan said? so in other words if somebody comes into his office and says, hey, i need $20 million for this project, it's just a quick stamp of approval? ryan's part of the problem in washington, and he's trying to blame the democrats for it. at certain points the vice president was openly fact checking paul ryan's comments in realtime. >> this is a plan that's bipartisan. it's a plan i put together with a prominent democrat senator from oregon. >> there's not one...
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>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under three. >> holy smoke. >> i stand by what i said, whatever it was. >>> we are pumped up, fired up, and jacked up with just hours until tonight's first and only face-off between vice president joseph biden and vice presidential nominee paul ryan. and what was once regarded as a popcorn side show has taken on far greater significance in the wake of the president's less than scintillating performance last week. democrats are anxious, republicans are hungry for a surge, and as ryan and biden take the stage tonight, they have a chance to influence this election at a volatile moment. and the president himself knows he's got to push harder against his ever-shiftin
>> i think joe just needs to be joe. >> paul ryan set to clear any confusion about the romney/ryan ticket. >> i'm a pro-life candidate, i'll be a pro-life president. >> our position is consistent and hasn't changed. >> he can't clear up confusion on his own budget. >> i don't have the time -- it would take me too long to go through all the math. >> oh, brother. just spin already. >> i just got to ask what's your personal best? >> 1under...
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you saw it in debate with ryan and biden. this should have been the biggest opening for ryan. and biden actually didn't tell the truth about what the administration knew about this attack. he contradicted his own state department. but ryan failed to call him on it. instead biden sort of cornered ryan into a situation where he ended up defending sort of bush's unpopular foreign policy instead. and so that i think was a major missed opportunity for ryan. and something romney is going to have to be prepared to do in the next presidential debate is really bring out and make that a focus that this whole situation with foreign policy. >> so david, what about conventional wisdom out there on who's going to be better in the town hall form style. what are you hearing? >> i think obama has higher expectations now because of his flat first performance. i think the key for him is how much energy does he show without going overboard here? biden is sort of his own guy there. but the president has to know, he basically has admitted himself he has to up his game. coming out of this debate, th
you saw it in debate with ryan and biden. this should have been the biggest opening for ryan. and biden actually didn't tell the truth about what the administration knew about this attack. he contradicted his own state department. but ryan failed to call him on it. instead biden sort of cornered ryan into a situation where he ended up defending sort of bush's unpopular foreign policy instead. and so that i think was a major missed opportunity for ryan. and something romney is going to have to...